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Governor McCrory and Republican legislators said they would do away with “pay-to-play” and “corruption” in Raleigh.
 
Then a group of lobbyists held a fundraiser in Raleigh. It’s illegal, of course, for lobbyists to contribute to legislators.
 
But the fundraiser was for a congressional candidate named Phil Berger Jr.
 
Yes, the son of State Senate President Pro Tem Phil Berger Sr.
 
For the Republicans ruling Raleigh today, that apparently passes the ethics test. No pay-to-play there.
 
What do you think? And what will  voters say?
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dap916
# dap916
Friday, December 20, 2013 2:49 PM
So, if we go back and checked when the democrats were in power in Raleigh we'd find nothing like this happening? And, if we did find it, we'd see you, Gary, posting something on TAP against it? Uh, huh. Right.

I rarely say: "well, it's okay because the other side did it"....but, in this case, it IS okay because unless there's some crime committed...if something illegal was done...it does meet the "what's good for the goose is good for the gander" standard.

Democrats whine about so much that is happening today that took place back when they had the power in NC. The whining started with redistricting (that the democrats did for decades and decades in our state) and has continued with anything and everything that the republicans are doing so as to make them stronger politically. And, all of it that happened back when democrats had the power in NC came despite all of the rhetoric they spewed out to we citizens about how they were going to be "fair" and "above board" and "transparent".

Give us a break, Gary. All I can say to you is....get used to it and get over it.
Choo
# Choo
Friday, December 20, 2013 5:37 PM
Voters will think that Phil Berger Jr. has switched parties. Most open and ethical Presidency ever. If you like your insurance you can keep it. If you like your Doctor you can keep him. I will close Gitmo. Democrats are so accustomed to lies I don't think it will make much or any difference. Like I say they may think the Berger Junior has changed parties. It could actually help.
Reaganite
# Reaganite
Saturday, December 21, 2013 10:26 PM
Even if lobbyists cannot legally contribute from their personal funds, they all seem to control the PAC's of their clients and can send funds from that source, so the prohibition on personal funds is virtually meaningless. Either way, the recipient knows that the lobbyist was responsible for getting him the money.

The real threat to democracy was a system originally set up by Basnight, and now perpetrated by Thom Tillis. The special interests are encouraged to contribute to a fund controlled by the presiding officer of the legislative body instead of to individual legislators, and the presiding officer doles out the contributions to various candidates in his party. The lobbyist then only has to deal with the presiding officer's staff instead of each legislator seperately. The presiding officer, being in control of the money, uses it to control the individual legislators. This is nothing but a corrupt system, and Tillis is the new Basnight.

In the last session, we saw the special interests repeatedly buying Tillis this way, and Tillis cared nothing for Republican principles if they got in the way of what the special interests who were giving him money wanted. A good example was severely watering down the E-verify laws on employment of illegal aliens, which is completely contrary to Republican principles, but was asked for by agricultural special interests that were funding Tillis. Tillis even tried to get driving permits for illegal aliens.

Lobbyists giving money to Berger, Jr. does not bother me at all, but Tillis' wheeling and dealing with agricultural special interest and selling out the interests of NC citizens does. Tillis is running a corrupt Basnight-style system and it stinks.

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