posted on June 09, 2010 20:03
Here’s a mystery: Bill Randall says he has an MBA from National Louis University, but National Louis University says he doesn’t.
Bernie Reeves’ friend, who runs a company that recruits and screens executives for businesses, contacted National Louis University (in Illinois) to verify Randall’s MBA degree. The college instructed him to contact the National Student Clearinghouse – the same service Duke, UNC and NCSU use to allow employers to verify applicant’s degrees.
The Student Clearinghouse reported Bill Randall does not have an MBA. [Click here]
Bernie’s friend then re-contacted the National Student Clearinghouse to reconfirm the information; they reported again: No degree.
I then asked him to contact the University directly to confirm the information a third time. He called the Dean over the MBA program twice. No reply.
I called the University’s office of Admissions and Records and was told to contact the National Student Clearinghouse. I called the records office directly and asked to speak to the Degree Verification Coordinator. No reply. I emailed. No reply.
I sent Bill Randall a message on his website on Facebook. No reply.
Finally, at the NBC debate, Bernie explained to Bill what had happened, said he didn’t want to make an unfair charge and asked Bill if he did have an MBA.
Bill said, Yes. Absolutely.
Bernie followed up with an email asking Bill for verification of his degree. No reply.
Bernie called Bill and asked for verification – Bill refused to give it and said, You’ll just have to take my word for it.
Bill Randall has said that while working for a company in Florida, with an ‘F’ Better Business Bureau rating, he personally contacted 15,000 companies over three years – or one business every 25 minutes. He says as a CMC Petty Officer in the Navy he led 16,000 sailors – more men than a Major General commands. He says he’s a minister – but he does not have a divinity degree. And, now, the university he says awarded him an MBA degree – says it didn’t.
Odder still, according to Randall’s resume, at the same time he was earning his MBA at National Louis University he was also working for the company in Florida – contacting a business every 25 minutes.
Does Bill Randall have an MBA? If so, providing proof – to show the college erred when it reported he didn’t – will clear the air. Otherwise, it’s hard not to conclude Bill Randall’s been caught in the silliest flamoozle yet.
Wednesday, June 09, 2010 10:30 PM
Sounds like this guy is related to the V-Chairman on the NCGOP.
Wednesday, June 09, 2010 10:32 PM
WOW! Talk about an axe to grind or an agenda... Could this be any more slanted and obvious? For the record, I can't vote for Bill Randall he is not in my area. But, also for the Record... I have worked for a company which had a fine BBB rating when I was there but had it falter after I had left: It if clear that Mr. Randall was at the school enrolled for 2 years in an MBA course which is more than enough time to complete a MBA so it would seem that he did complete it (probably); and I myself am a minister, served as a youth pastor for over 10 years, have performed over 12 marriages, 3 funerals several baby dedications and I do not have a degree in divinity either... that is not required... although at times it is helpful. God Bless.
Thursday, June 10, 2010 7:04 AM
Oopsie. Well I'm sure there's a perfectly sound explanation. Right? Surely? Er . . . ?
Why, see above how the good minister doesn't seem to mind at all if a person misrepresents his credentials and manages (with some struggle) to suggest that it just doesn't matter if what the guy said wasn't true.
Thursday, June 10, 2010 2:34 PM
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Thursday, June 10, 2010 2:45 PM
So Bernie's "friend" contacts the Nat'l Student Clearinghouse to get the lowdown on Randall? Just like that?
Exactly how does that work? When I go to the website, I see a company that releases info only to educational institutions etc. I can't just look up someone. Per their privacy guidelines:
"We require certification from all verification requestors that the student or alumnus has given permission for his/her academic information to be released. Requestors also agree not to re-release degree data to third parties (unless the requestor is a background screening firm releasing data to their employer client)."
So Randall's confidential info is released to Reeves' friend? What about his credit report? Is that next?
I'm not defending Randall - if - IF - he's been misrepresenting his record. But I would hardly believe the word of someone who is digging up dirt on a political opponent using unethical means.
Thursday, June 10, 2010 3:39 PM
Well, I have voted for Randall. I want to know the truth. How can the truth be "hidden" here? I'm confused about this (and yeah, I know I'm not always the best at understanding stuff like this). I have a degree from Elon College (now Elon University...I'm an old bird so that was eons ago). I know for a FACT that if someone wants to know if I have that degree, that is easy information to get.
I don't know. Am I missing something here? I don't care to read Randall's themes or thesis' or dissertations or see his grades and such. I DO want to know if what he's saying about his education is fact or fiction. Is that too much to ask? Is that too much to find out?
Thursday, June 10, 2010 3:51 PM
You say that "I know for a FACT that if someone wants to know if I have that degree, that is easy information to get. "
Please contact the Nat'l Student Clearinghouse at 703-742-4200 and report back on how easy it is to get that info from that organization. Seriously - please do. In fact, why not try to get info on say, John Edwards. Supposedly he graduated from NC State in 1974 with a degree in textile technology. If the info is easy to get, just link it here.
Read Randall's response to Carter's/Bernie's charges here:
Thursday, June 10, 2010 7:00 PM
Hey EQV...you are right on. I tried to find my own personal educational information not only where you suggested I go but through just sooo many other venues on the Internet through Google and Bing and others. No hit on me and my education.
Hmmmmm....I see what is being said now. I must admit to being ignorant on this. Thanks, dude/dudette?? :-)
Thursday, June 10, 2010 7:45 PM
Hey anon -
Guess what - Bernie was wrong. Bill Randall does indeed have his MBA - and has proven it.
This just posted at the N&O's Under the Dome blog:
Let's see if Bernie is man enough to apologize. I won't hold my breath.
Thursday, June 10, 2010 9:23 PM
Mr. Randall is completely vindicated on the matter of this hard earned degree from this fine upstanding institution. Right on, Mr. Randall!
Friday, June 11, 2010 10:15 AM
Dear Pol Pot, You anonymously posted a comment ("In 1997 Hines and his pal Carter Wrenn formed RTH Consulting Inc...") that was inaccurate. If you would like to re-post it under your own name, and take responsibility for what you have written, contact me, verify your identity and I will consider it. Best, Carter
Friday, June 11, 2010 12:19 PM
Randall's master's degree confirmed
You have run out of smears Mr. Wrenn. Why doesn't Mr. Reeves just tell us how he plans to represent us, rather than spend his time and energy having his mouth pieces dig up nonexistent dirt on Mr. Randall? Mr. Randall is a conservative and a patriot. Mr. Reeves is not. That's all I really need to know.
No conservative would have said that the jury is still out on Obama's Stimulus.
Friday, June 11, 2010 8:45 PM
Randall Proves Reeves Allegations False
Wake Forest, NC June 11, 2010. Bill Randall, a conservative Republican, who is facing Bernie Reeves in a runoff primary in the NC 13 US Congressional District, today produced documentation that Reeves allegations that Randall did not have an MBA were totally false.
According to EG Briones, Degree Audit ... See MoreAnalyst Office of Admissions and Records National-Louis University, “William A. Randall has completed all requirements for the M.B.A. program on 12/12/06 The Master of Business Degree was conferred….”
Reeves has been running an attack campaign with allegations flying. Mr. Randall said I am trying to stay with the issues, but obviously Mr. Reeves does not believe he can win based on his principals and beliefs.” Mr. Randall is considering legal action.
EG Briones can be reached at Office of Admissions and Records
1000 Capitol Drive, Wheeling IL 60090
Randall reaffirmed that he intends to keep the “high ground,” and focus on the issues that matter to the voters and families in the 13th Congressional district.
Saturday, June 12, 2010 11:50 AM
I do not think Reeves is smearing. And, Randall has stated that there are things we should know about Reeves but Randall refuses to play "gutter politics."
Integrity, financial responsibility and background are important issues to bring out in a primary. If not now . . . when? We need the strongest republican to face Miller.
Have you guys read about the dem guy from South Carolina? He won a primary and he has pending criminal charges (including attacking a woman) from 11-2009!! Surely, I am not suggesting Bernie or Bill have pending criminal charges but we need these two candidates to (for all intents and purposes) vet each other for us.
If there is "dirt" on Bernie then lets get it out before the primary. Let's go, Randall campaign. If you know "things" like some staffers have suggested then Bill Randall owes it to the republicans in NC13 to educate us or, in the alternative, give Bernie an opportunity to clear the misunderstanding as Bill did with his MBA.
Saturday, June 12, 2010 4:20 PM
Austrian Heir, Two weeks ago Bill Randall’s college, National Louis University, reported Bill did not have an MBA. Bernie Reeves campaign asked Bill to explain that discrepancy.
At first, Bill told the News and Observer he’d completed the courses of study and qualified for a degree but hadn’t received a diploma because he hadn’t paid a $35 fee.
Later, he told WPTF radio he’d completed his studies in early 2007 but owed the college money for a course taken in 2006, which hadn’t been paid until this year. At any rate, two weeks after reporting Randall didn’t have an MBA, the college has now reported it has awarded him a diploma (this year).
When a candidate says he has a degree and his college says he doesn’t – it’s fair to ask for an explanation.
Saturday, June 12, 2010 6:27 PM
Trucorgi, You anonymously posted comments on behalf of Bill Randall ("Is Bernie Reeves & Carter Wrenn violating FEC Laws?") that were inaccurate. I have removed the posts but if you would like to re-post them under your own name, and take responsibility for what you have written, contact me, verify your identity and I will consider it. Best, Carter .
Monday, June 14, 2010 1:44 AM
I thank Carter Wrenn and Bernie Reeves for bringing issues out. The only way we can be a prepared voter is to be an informed and educated voter.
I am concerned about Bill Randall's lack of fiscal responsibility. Due to family deaths, I did not attend my undergraduate or graduate commencement ceremonies. I did not have to pay extra money - I was just sent the diplomas.
Mr. Randall's fiscal issues go beyond the payment for some class. I have an issue about why Mr. Randall would enter into signed employment agreements (without legal assistance) to pay staffers when there was absolutely no money to pay the staffers. That reminds me of the US Congress voting yes on entitlements that we as taxpayers cannot afford. We cannot spend money we do not have! Mr. Randall really should explain this lingering issue of his fiscal irresponsibility.
We would be hiring Bill Randall to make decisions about how our (NC13) taxpayer money is spent. And, he has made very bad fiscal decisions that obligate his campaign.
This is not mud-slinging. It is a valid concern of mine and may other voters with whom I speak.
In contrast, Mr. Reeves has no known issues of fiscal irresponsibility.
Wednesday, June 16, 2010 11:00 AM
Carter -- enough with the gotcha politics. I voted for Randall first time around; was going to switch to Reeves this time, but the campaign you've run has convinced me that Reeves is an a**h**e. Enough. Why can't you run a campaign based on Reeves' character instead of Randall's?
Friday, June 18, 2010 8:56 AM
Chris - the primary is all about finding out who is the strongest candidate to beat Brad Miller. There are glaring questions in Randall's CV. For example, on Bill's web site, he says he is 53 years old and he left Navy after a 27 year career. He left Navy in December 2001.
That means Bill was 42 when he left the Navy. 42-27=15. Did Bill Randall join the US Navy at age 15? Why so young? Did he graduate from high school very early?
Why did Bill leave after we were attacked (ie in 2001) when patriots were scrambling to enter? And why was Bill working as a stock shelver at Home Depot in Chicago on 9-11 when we were attacked? Was he called in to work at Navy that day since he was such an important officer?
Financial responsibility, integrity, knowledge of issues, experience making business decisions are answers we need BEFORE we send any R candidate out to face Brad Miller.
I dont know Carter Wrenn. I loved Jessie Helms. I think Bernie's campaign is fine. I am concerned about Bill's veracity and the latest conspiracy theory on oil demonstrates a basic lack of knowledge about deep off shore drilling leases.
Bill says he knows "stuff" about Bernie. If true, Bill owes us that information so we can be completely informed voters.
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