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Comment by dap916 on 'Coming to America'

dap916 — Mon, 04 Feb 2013 23:36:14 GMT

Well, I'm a "native" as well. No, not an American Indian "native"....just a native of America being born here. So, even though it doesn't bother you that we have well over 13 million illegal immigrants in our country, it bothers me. I have just as much right to be "bothered" about this as you NOT to be "bothered" by it.

Do you seriously believe that in 7 years, we will have17 million "extra" jobs in the U.S. that can't be filled? Really Joe? And, you're honestly citing the UN with some population and workforce study for America??????? The UN?? Joe. C'mon, man.

People like me....and trust me, that's NOT just evil, well-to-do white conservative republicans...believe that immigration in our country's history is what has made our country just so great. And, that was because those immigrants that came here did so to accept our culture and to assimilate into our "way of life" and they came here LEGALLY. They learned our language and they accepted responsibility for themselves. They came here for the OPPORTUNITY to achieve. They didn't come here to taken care of. They came here for the opportunity to take care of themselves. Far different than MOST of those millions and millions of illegal immigrants we have here today.

So, even though you can string together a great set of paragraphs and some lovely rhetoric...you feel differently than a great many people in our country.

Now, saying that...I wouldn't put up too big a fight if we came up with some way to get those illegals here in our country now a solid and viable way to become citizens. No, not jumping over those that are here doing it the "right" way...but a way nonetheless. But first, it will all be for naught if we don't FIRST secure the boarder. If we don't...it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that we will just have more and more millions here illegally that will then present this very same problem for us in the years to come. First secure the boarder....THEN work with the millions of illegals here currently. THAT'S the only acceptable way to have "meaningful immigration reform". The ONLY way.

Comment by Reaganite on 'Coming to America'

Reaganite — Tue, 05 Feb 2013 14:36:18 GMT

The issue before the country is not ''immigration'' but on the contrary ''illegal immigration'' and amnesty''. There is a big difference.

There are many would-be legal immigrants in many countries who are going through the proper procedures and patiently waiting their turn. Most will realistically never even be allowed to get in the line for approval. Many of these people have education and skills that would be useful in our economy.

Then we have the pushy line-breakers, the illegals who thumbed their noses at the law and came anyway. Most of them are unskilled or at best semi-skilled. 47% of them are on welfare.

Now we have proposals to give preference to the pushy line breakers, the illegals, over those who are trying to do it the right way. That is just wrong. It is immoral and un-American. While Lindsay Grahamnesty and his cohorts claim they will be ''at the back of the line'', that is a lie because most of the would be immigrants who are trying to do it the right way will never even be allowed into the line in the first place. To realy be at the back of the line, the illegals would have to be behind every single person who has applied properly to immigrate to the US from all over the world.

We do need reforms to our immigration laws. The system Canada uses which focuses on whether the skills of the immigrant are useful in the economy, would be far better than our current system. Temporary work permits for Agricultural labor, would also be a win-win for everyone.

One needed reform is to get rid of the citizenship by birth concept. The United States is the only industrialized country with this absolutely insane policy. The most recent one to ditch it was Ireland, which did so in a popular referendum by a landslide margin.

Before any decision is made on what to do with the illegals already infiltrated into our country, we need to secure the border. That was promised in the 1986 amnesty legislation, but while the amnesty itself happened, the border security never did, leading President Reagan to call that legislation one of the greatest mistakes of his Presidency. We do not need to make another similar mistake now.

Comment by clarence swinney on 'Coming to America'

clarence swinney — Tue, 05 Feb 2013 15:05:02 GMT

ELECTION SYSTEM BROKEN
President Obama said:
“we have to fix it”.
When? Who? How?
I voted for several Democrats. Then reviewed my votes. Every vote was for a Republican.
I went to nearby Democratic Headquarters to ask for an investigation of that machine.
Found no problem.???
Voter denied right to vote-Untrained poll workers—Misapply voter AD and provisional ballot laws—Frantic Voting—Last minutes changes such as new polling sites—Failed voting machines--
Deception phone calls to voters. Long registration lines for early voters.
OBAMA, WHEN WILL IT BE FIXED???